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I have a few questions, I was doing some of the math based on previous response graphs provided on this forum and was curious about these matchups:
6 LS808/LS801P vs. 2 ZV18, 1 ZV28, 2SSP118, 1 SSP218 4 LS1208 vs. 2 ZV18, 1 ZV28, 2SSP118, 1 SSP218 All of these are roughly the same price. But when added up in multiples the extension and SPL output increases for the LS side (except for the LS1004). The LS1208 and LS808 have 10ft and 6ft paths respectively. So I understand that multiples of them will begin to perform much better. I have not read any literature about which kind of speakers the ZV and SSP series are. As you well know, finding good bass is difficult. I have 2 ZXA5's and a pair of the passive versions. These speakers are almost impossible to match with one box because they are extremely loud, same with the QRX series but I don't like the heavy nature of them. Anyway, I've matched up a few subs at local places and nothing EV, QSC, Yamaha, JBL, or Cerwin Vega can adequately compete with by just using 1 box. Not even dual boxes. By my math you would need 4 LS801p's to get enough loud end for 2 ZXA5's. I have looked into Danley and JTR spectrum but they don't offer anything the LS1208's can't already do in multiples of 4 (equal or less price). The Danley DBH218 seems to be the cream of the crop but it is pushing $8000 for the powered version. Now I have seen the specs of the DBH218/TH221 and their response graphs and they beat out 2 ZV28's down low. But they cost more. You'd need powersoft K series amps or the powered version, which, in either case, makes it supremely less cost effective compared to Yorkville alternatives. Your company seems like the mid level but I am still wondering about cost effectiveness. So I will relay what I have discovered: 6 LS808/LS801P vs. 2 ZV18, 1 ZV28, 2SSP118, 1 SSP218 I am just trying to make sure my math is correct that 6 LS808/LS801P's would equal or be lower than the output of the others you sell (depending on frequency, the 808/801 kill at 60-90hz and there is no denying that but it would also require EQing that out to make it sound more flat, given that your speakers generally have a flat response this is not a problem). Your response graphs provide this information and anywhere from 4-6 LS808/801 would equal the output, depending on frequency, of 2 ZV18, 1 ZV28, 2 SSP118, 1 SSP218. 4 LS1208 vs. 2 ZV18, 1 ZV28, 2SSP118, 1 SSP218 These 4 LS1208's would, by my calculations, beat each of your subwoofers in all hz. But they require some decent power and that must be factored in. But since I already have that (these don't require as much power as the DBH218 or TH221), it's not an issue. I used the response graphs from another forum in 1/2 space, which is similar to what you have provided. I used the sensitivity and mapped out the graph for applied power. 4 LS1208's will put out, by my math, the equivalent of 3 LS2100p's. Which, in turn, scaling in addition for multiple cabinets using your graphs, would equal more performance than 2 ZV18, 1 ZV28, 2 SSP118, or 1 SSP218 in almost every single hz range. I know this is a decent amount of information but I presume it is correct. Yorkville has been the king of subwoofers for most audio applications. They have used B&C and now they use some pretty beefy neodymium woofers. Yet it still requires multiples to equal the ZXA5's (112 sensitivity for the horn on those beasts and they have the EV line array DVX3150 woofer in them too). So, I was curious, for my mobile application, which subwoofers would you recommend pairing with the ZXA5's for a mobile application? I typically do school dances and prefer passive cause it is less cords and less trouble with the xover and processing in the way I want it to sound. But all I want is a subwoofer that can keep up with a pair of these speakers AND play well down low. I want to keep the sound as natural as possible but also rattle the chests, shake down photos from the walls, for a normal sized gym AND keep up with the ZXA5's. I am new to your line of speakers and I know that 4 LS1208's will keep up easily and do what I require of them but I was wondering if it could be done for cheaper with the products you sell. Also, I am curious if the ZV28 would be safe/usable on a normal 120 15A. Since there is not, typically, 20A outlets at my gigs. I have multiple 15A available though, which is why passive might end up working better cause 2 bridged QSC 2450's would work for the LS1208's and be able to allow a ZXA5/lights on top of their power draw. Thank you.